# Best Way To Handle TR-069 / TR-181 in UI Page Config **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [May 3, 2023, 2:54am UTC](https://forum.genieacs.com/t/best-way-to-handle-tr-069-tr-181-in-ui-page-config/3911 "2023-05-03T02:54:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![washcroft](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.genieacs.com/washcroft/32/809_2.png) [@washcroft](https://forum.genieacs.com/u/washcroft)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 2:54am UTC](https://forum.genieacs.com/t/best-way-to-handle-tr-069-tr-181-in-ui-page-config/3911/1 "2023-05-03T02:54:14Z")
Hello, How are people configuring their UI pages to show things like connected/associated devices across different CPEs that use both TR-069 (InternetGatewayDevice.) and TR-181 (Device.). Is it a case of adding two (nearly duplicate) parameter-table’s, or is there a better way? e.g. for 2.4Ghz WLAN Clients: - a table of InternetGatewayDevice.LANDevice.1.WLANConfiguration.1.AssociatedDevice - and a table of Device.WiFi.AccessPoint.1.AssociatedDevice (genieacs will only show the table which exists in the device’s model) Is there a way to filter the parameter-table based on a parameter within each instance having a value, particularly on TR-181 devices the model will contain lots of “Device.WiFi.AccessPoint.1.AssociatedDevice” instances for example, but most of them will be empty. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/genieacs/original/2X/b/ba839b979f7efa86dd07b0d3436a89d57626dd89.png) Many thanks! ---
**Author:** ![rudymartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/919ad9/32.png) [@rudymartin](https://forum.genieacs.com/u/rudymartin)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 5:16am UTC](https://forum.genieacs.com/t/best-way-to-handle-tr-069-tr-181-in-ui-page-config/3911/2 "2023-05-03T05:16:51Z")
about the parameters I guess you can get that with [virtual parameters](https://docs.genieacs.com/en/latest/virtual-parameters.html). The example is a similar case. Also you will find hints if you search the forum. I said “I guess” because we use only one manufacturer and as a result I don’t have experience with virtual parameters. about customizing the UI, generally speaking I would say that’s depends on who is the end user. If that’s just for you and/or a network manager and it’s something you will use once in a while then that’s OK (I have a few mods in place but, if needed, I can discard them any time). But If you are planning to give access to (for example) customer support, then I recommend hiring a programmer to build specific tools for specific needs and leave the big guns to the people who know how&when to use them. I am saying this because that’s my specific case: our customer management software contacts our ACS to get/set the information needed to each customer device and _if_ there’s a problem (which does not happens often) then customer support ask my boss or me for help. Then, for the specific need you are asking for, your answer would be [endpoints](https://docs.genieacs.com/en/latest/api-reference.html#endpoints). That’s how we query associated devices on a specific CPE. as a bonus, reading about the [XY problem](https://xyproblem.info/) might help to understand why sometimes the chosen solution is not necessarily the best. Happened to us while setting our ACS. ---
**Author:** ![washcroft](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/forum.genieacs.com/washcroft/32/809_2.png) [@washcroft](https://forum.genieacs.com/u/washcroft)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 8:46am UTC](https://forum.genieacs.com/t/best-way-to-handle-tr-069-tr-181-in-ui-page-config/3911/3 "2023-05-03T08:46:08Z")
Virtual Parameters don’t really work when you’re trying to look at an array of instances. My main question is what filters/config can be applied to the parameter-table UI component, that would help clean up the output of blank instances.